Batteries!

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Batteries!

Postby DarkHelmet » Mon May 15, 2006 5:40 pm

With Winter setting in batteries are taking strain.

I have had to jumpstart my trike now on 3 occassions. Is flying 1 hour a week enough to keep it charged?

Mine is now sitting on the charger (and no - not the car charger, a specific transformer looking one I got from my local hobby shop)

Will the guys in the know please enVoltage (enlighten) us on do's and dont's?

I unplug mine after every flight - should it be charged regularly? How do you know if it is busted? I have one of those sealed units. Where do you find a decent replacement? (The 105Ah Deltec battery I lug around on the back is a bit heavy ;) )
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Postby Duck Rogers » Mon May 15, 2006 9:51 pm

DH,
I need WAAAAAY more info before I can even begin to help you :roll:

What battery have you got at the moment? Let me have ALL the markings and writings that is printed on it, including the Manufacturers name :D

Next, I presume you have a voltage regulator on the plane. Do you know which one it is? There are 2 types.
Is flying 1 hour a week enough to keep it charged?
It depends how far discharged it is. If it is completely discharged, then the simple answer is NO.

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Postby DarkHelmet » Mon May 15, 2006 9:59 pm

Hawker PHEBUS
12 SC 12
12V - 12Ah - C20
Maintenance Free Rechargeable battery

It has a red pole and a black pole...

0908 stamped big to the left of the black pole,

more towards the center between the tow poles 00403 stamped smaller, big minus next to the Black and Big + Next to the Red - lots of brown stains all over (but I think that is my fault!)
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Postby Duck Rogers » Mon May 15, 2006 10:10 pm

Dark Helmet wrote:.....lots of brown stains all over (but I think that is my fault!)
I normally get those on the seat, not the battery! :D No wonder the battery's a goner :twisted: :twisted:

Will get back to you regarding the battery and charging etc...
What about the voltage regulator? And what kind of accessories do you run off the battery? GPS, Radio, heated gloves :twisted: ...just kidding :D Please list all the stuffs that require power.
I would need to know all that so that I can try and work out the current draw in relation to the battery size in relation to the voltage regulator :roll:
Sorry if it sound like gibberish :D

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Postby Cloud Warrior » Tue May 16, 2006 3:28 am

I have fitted the following:

1 x DEKA ETX15 Absorbed Glass Mat Technology Sealed & Maintenance Free Battery (Made in the US of A) which is fed by a Powermate Voltage Rectifier / Regulator (Aussie product but I bought it whilst in SA - see www.powermate.com.au) instead of the standard Rotax unit. On the ground the battery gets connected up to a CTEK Battery Charger that trickle feeds the battery and keeps it "healthy".

The battery is apparently the same battery used in Harley Davidsons. CCA of 190 amps as opposed to the original battery's 120 CCA. It fits very nicely into the standard Solowings battery box. When looking for a replacement battery for the original "Made in China by a manufacturer that nobody has ever heard about " battery I found physical size to be the major frustration. I looked at Odyssey batteries - designed specifically for aircraft - but found them too large for the orginal battery position on my Aquilla. I would have had to make up a new bracket as well as the battery being quite a bit heavier than the original. My instructor's Safari had an Odyssey fitted to it but that trike has the battery bracket in a much more accessible position. Yuasa batteries are not bad but it would have meant a one for one type change out although they do also have a sealed maintenance free range.

So far the whole set up has worked like a bomb (no pun intended) with my 582 starting first time each time and it definitely feels as if the battery gives more of a "kick" than the original. The battery charger ensures that I have a fully charged battery everytime I fly. It has a very clever plug in / plug out attachment that allows you to simply connect the battery to the charger without having to sukkel with crocodile clips or removing the battery from the bracket. Anybody who has an Aquilla will know what a pain in the arse that process is especially if you have a GRS/BRS fitted.

I am not a "squiggly amp" specialist by any means but have always maintained that if you buy the best equipment that you can afford and look after it well, it looks after you. Goed koop is duur koop!
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Postby DarkHelmet » Tue May 16, 2006 8:26 am

Not much Avionics that need power on AXC.

1. Radio Icom A22
2. Buzzcom Vox intercom system
3. Electric Fuel Pump
4. Electric Starter

I would like to install some 12V cameras and a Digital video recorder at some stage too.
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Postby Duck Rogers » Tue May 16, 2006 9:57 am

Cloud Warrior has done it right and the setup is optimal. Most of us will do well to copy that set-up :D

Dark Helmet, you have a PM.

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