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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Thu May 13, 2010 9:37 am

I flew to a place called Jaccis Tree Lodge in the Madikwe game reserve on the Botswana border last weekend and it was a blast. Just a comfortable 2 hr flight from Tedderfield.
This is a must for guys that enjoy a short weekend flyaway. The lodge collects you at the dirt runway ( a tar runway right next to the lodge will be completed in August ) and then you drive in an open game drive vehicle to the lodge whilst viewing the big 5. We even saw a lion kill !
With the nippy early Winters air , I experienced that very first 'fuzzy' feeling in the Xenon cabin again. I somehow associate my Xenon with Winter flying. The min 10C temps in Poland when I did my conversion to Xenon. The smell of new leather. The vapour against the screen as you close the doors and how it evaporates the moment the engine starts running and the heater is turned on. The past few months' Summer flying was great with the odd shower supplying a gyro wash in flight. Opening the vents in 30C+ supplies more than enough airflow and cooling down in the cabin during flight. Doors off is also a great experience as it feels like an open gyro with a huge screen. But Winter flying is my favourite flying. The cold,crisp , smooth air immediately above the inversion layer and above all the muck from the coal and grass fires. The feel of the cold sick grip in your hand which warms up with the rest of the cabin before you commence your taxi , as the weak Winter sun starts peeping over the Eastern horizon. I love Winter flying. I love my Xenon. :-(-(
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby gyrosa » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:03 pm

This morning I received a call from Johan, who did not seem such a :( happy chappy :( as his Xenon's engine appeared to be suffering from the hiccups. :oops:
Shortly after getting to Tedderfield, we discussed the problem over a cup of coffee and then had a look at the problem. After the engine was started, it was very clear, - this engine was in serious need of some tuning. It vibrated so badly that one of the wires to the Enigma had broken off. :cry:
Checked the carbs, made a few minor adjustments and then balanced them. Hey presto - a happy engine and owner.
I then asked Johan to run the engine at speed for 5 minutes just to make sure all was well and sure enough, all the T&P's were in place and looking healthy. vhpy
We climbed aboard, taxied out and took off. Everything went smoothly. Leveling off, Johan handed the control to me to try. I found her to be very smooth to handle, the Xenon did not exhibit any bad habits at all, - simply sailed on very smoothly without any hiccups from the engine and very quite in the cockpit. I tried a few turns and no vices there either.
:idea: Mmmm, the thought of putting her down on the runway started to enter my mind, but I somehow had to bend Johan's arm. On downwind he popped the question "do you think you can land her?" (!!) Without even thinking twice I took the invitation with both hands. (!!)
Turning finals Johan advised to keep her at 90km/h. I found this very easy as the Xenon does not "get away" from you. She was rock steady in a slight crosswind breeze. The round out, flare and touch down was really a non-event, bearing in mind that this was my very first attempt at flying the Xenon. xxx xxx xxx
## ## ## What do I like about the Xenon. It is steady and flies very well. Instruments on the Enigma are easy to read and can be used from both left and right side. Controls such as throttle, stick and rudder are not over sensitive but sensitive enough to allow you to remain in control. The alluminium rotors were very quite. Plenty of elbow and legroom inside the cockpit. Cockpit is quite with plenty of ventilation which is adjustable. Good seating which is very comfortable.
What don't I like about the Xenon. Being more technical I would like more access to the engine but Johan assures me that this problem has been addressed in the newer models.
What the Xenon is not - It is not a low level, flying under wires machine. This machine is for the more mature person who has safety and comfort in mind. It is not a mad speed demon, but it will get you there in comfort.
## ## ## Something about engines. DO have your carbs balanced properly at least once every 100 hours by someone who has the equipment and knows how to service the engine. Rough running produces serious problems such as expensive cracks, etc. In addition they also sound terrible and can leave you high and dry and in trouble. It is not so expensive to have this done and a damaged engine will cost a whole lot more!!! ## ## ##
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby Vertical Tango » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:21 am

Well done Gyrosa for helping Flynote in this. The man was not happy and about to comit suicide. You deserve a front row seat in his NVN program. He might even hand you over the mike.
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:18 am

Hey Eric, thank you for this positive feedback but more than anything else ... sorting my Xenon out!!! vhpy vhpy
I really was getting deperate when I had the rough running and vibration and flooding which I reccon could have been sorted out from day one if it was addressed. I have known you for so many years and you did my conversion to gyros when I bought the 4th Magni in the country back in voetsek !
You have always been first page in my book when it came to knowing,understanding and working on gyros. I was a bit weary when I moved to Xenon and thus away from your expertise at Magni which I have had the priviledge to enjoy on the 5 Magnis I had over the years.
Now you are back meneer !! You are the man ! Thank you for sorting my Xenon out. It has been such a frustration over the past month but now she has never sounded so good and run so smoothly ... and all it took was a simple correct diagnoses and performing the correct corrective measures ... all within the space of an hour ! (^^)
Braam can most definately do your convertion to Xenon so you can come aboard. We need guys like you around.
Enough of stroking your ego now ! Just now you start flying without rotors (-)
Glad you enjoyed flying the Xenon. You flew and landed the thing as though you have been doing it all your life. Suppose experience does count for something ! I have always maintained that this is the smoothest most comfortable not only gyro, bur aircraft around in my mind.
My Xenon is in the market if the news can be spread. I am ordering a new one this week which is spect with all the latest mods and an unusual colour ! Watch this space.
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:35 am

Now this was a weekend of note ! After mentioning that my Xenon is in the market I received three calls the same afternoon ! This forum is potent !
The Xenon could have had a new home in the Kalahari or Free State but the Cape won and she will be moving to her new owner in Durbanville. (^^)
He is related via the French Hugenots to the Xenon designer Raphael Celier ! I can only say that he is getting one heluva gyro but what a schnupp !!
Wants all the extras included such as the custom luggage bags , long range fuel cell and Lightspeed Zulu headsets. O well , at least I know exactly what to spec in my new Xenon . Poland here we come ! I will place pics of the building process on the forum from day one so you guys can follow the exciting time ahead. It is great to see how they put it all together over a 8 week period. It used to be 6 but with African military orders i believe they have been forced to extend the completion period by 2 weeks. So , early September 2 new Xenons in SA for now.
The Free State is getting her first Xenon , same time as mine. Danie decided that open air flying in the crisp Bethlehem mornings, in Winter, to inspect his farm is not always first choice. His daughter loves the open gyro untill the other morning when she let slip ' dis darem baie koud ! '
His wife always felt a little nervous of the 'oop storie' and was never against Danie flying mostly solo.
I took my Xenon over to Bethlehem this weekend and after flipping Danie and Lidamari ... it was a big thumbsup from Lidamari " Nou sal ek saamvlieg ! " and smiles from Danie in the enclosed cosy cockpit of the Xenon !
You guys are going to love your machine.
ZU RDV purred all the way to Bethlehem covering the 132 statute miles in 1 hrs 39 against a slight headwind and 1hrs 24 returning. You can block her at 85 to 95 mph ; mp 35 to 36 ; rpm 5000 to 5200. At 5400 the mp climbs to 38 " and your speed increases to between 95 and 100. At these numbers you are sitting on 115 hp continously. After landing you do not feel the flighttime at all and wish it was a bit further.Viva Xenon ! And now we sit without transponders grounded in the hangar , a stonethrow from soccer city , Xenon toegebêre for a month, listening to vuvuzelas being blown. Ag nou ja...
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby Gyronaut » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:09 am

That is fantastic news Johan!

It seems your machines like the Cape! They are most welcome here.

Congratulations to the new owner - looking forward to seeing that gyro around these parts! The Cape Gyro fraternity is really taking off! Now I can get a Xenon rating too. :)

Perhaps we should plan to get him to fly down in the gaggle with us one of these days... Louis M16, Patricks M22, my M24 and the Xenon. Wouldn't that be nice?

Johan, I am surprised that your machine is not xponder equipped. Jy like mos full-house toys (soos ek).
I like thinking of gyro's in the GA category rather than the microlight category. I have a transponder because it pleases me no end to fly in controlled airspace, fully compliant as any other serious aircraft there would do, and to show the aviation community that we are responsible serious aircraft - not homebuild amateurs. The Xenon certainly falls in that class.

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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:36 am

My new one will have one. It was an oversight on my part on RDV. Xenon has transponder equipped as an option.
Raphael is going to equip my new Xenon with everything Xenon has to offer on its latest models and it is going to be a blast.
I will be passing all info on the forum as I receive it from the factory.
What is the latest news on the M24 ? When do we start seeing them ?
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:41 pm

OK guys , here we go !
I will be giving a blow by blow account supported by pics from the factory on the entire process of building my new Xenon from scratch.
I think you might find it interesting and I would love to share my experience with you.

So this is day one today and they have started with the cabin, sanding it down and preparing it for the spraybooth. I have spesified the Jaguar XJ8 Topaz colour for my machine.It is a light goldish colour which will look great with cream leather and black trimmings.
I am very excited about Xenon's new long range fuel cell option for the long trips ahead. To quote Raphael ;

"I am still fan of the foldable tank version, need it ? install it and fill it… don’t need it ? fold it back and behind the seats… We have now a new version of installation that you will love. No more box for the pump to carry etc… all is pre-installed in the back of cabin, the switch is installed on the central console, the only job to do is to click or unclick the quick connect of the folding tank… This is a neat removeable installation, you will make other people jealous."

I am looking forward to all the other improvements and mods and will share them with you as we go along on this exciting journey.
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby braam hechter » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:45 am

Hi All
The posting as below refers

by sting » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:39 pm, was just wondering what the hour limit on airframe is for the Xenon. most of its airframe is fibreglass.... we have a 10 year old boat, we need to replace most of it since it is fibre glass and has cracks ALL over it... specially on the transom where the engine hangs from... now i would rather be in a MT that has a crack than in a Xenon that has cracks.

From Raph “We do NOT use common fiberglass. But VINYLESTER, with aircraft certificate compliance. It is warranty no limit TBO. Is sun UV resistant, all bases acid as well as fuels and oils.” The hull also has a 6000 hr life. The life can then be extended after testing was done on the specific hull. We have a working relationship with Airbus and are using some of the technologies, testing and procedures as carried out by them, to improve our product.

More information from wikipedia etc

Vinyl Ester, or Vinylester, is a resin produced by the esterification of an epoxy resin with an unsaturated monocarboxylic acid. The reaction product is then dissolved in a reactive solvent, such as styrene, to a 35 - 45 percent content by weight. It can be used as an alternative to polyester and epoxy materials in matrix or composite materials, where its characteristics, strengths, and bulk cost intermediate between polyester and epoxy. Vinyl ester has low resin viscosity (approx 200 cps), than polyester (approx 500cps) and epoxy (approx 900cps). In homebuilt airplanes, the Glasair and Glastar kit planes made extensive use of vinylester-reinforced fiberglass structures. It is a common resin in the marine industry due to its increased corrosion resistance and ability to withstand water absorption. Vinyl ester resin is extensively used to manufacture FRP tanks and vessels as per BS4994.

Why is the Right Resin Important? Link = http://www.resinnavigator.com/html/benefits.htm

In the early 1980's, the marine composites industry faced incredible corrosion problems. We believed the blistering was the result of corrosion in the laminate (water is an excellent solvent), and by using an epoxy-based vinyl ester resin behind the gel coat, the blistering could be eliminated. Obviously, time has proven us correct. Epoxy-based vinyl esters were invented by Interplastic Corporation thirty years ago and their remarkable corrosion resistance and physical properties make these resins hallmarks of today's resin industry.

How it Works
A marine vinyl ester decreases the amount of water getting into the laminate via osmotic pressure and it provides an inert barrier. By laying down a skin coat of vinyl ester behind the gel coat, or by completely replacing the regular resin used in the laminate with the Interplastic vinyl ester, the laminate is too corrosion resistant to be attacked.

Hanging in There
Back in the 1980's, vinyl ester resins were difficult to use in spray-up applications. That prompted us to create our pre-promoted and thixotropic vinyl ester laminating resins. These resins get their "sticky characteristics" from their epoxy "backbone." Simply said, the resins stay put, don't require special equipment or handling and their adhesion properties also allow them to overcome any flaws or contamination on the gel coat surface that could cause blisters to occur within the first year.

Durable: Two Different Benefits
When a hull laminate is made using a marine vinyl ester, there is a huge improvement in its physical properties versus those of a traditional laminating resin.

Vinyl esters are vastly more capable of resisting cracking due to flexing of the composite. Why is this important? A boat hull flexes (bends) in and out tens of millions of times in its lifetime. Every wave, every bump, causes a tiny flexing movement and this causes fatigue, and fatigue is cumulative. The reality is that marine vinyl esters are thousands of times better in fatigue performance than the "old stand-by" laminating resins. The benefits? The laminate's durability equates to longer hull life. It also means that these resins help protect your customers' investment.

The original research on fatigue resistance was done on laminates and castings, with the best in neopentyl-glycol-based gel coats, and under very precise conditions. Laminates mimicking a boat hull were tested by immersion, at two temperatures that were higher than ambient. We figured this would accelerate the testing and the results would be available in a reasonable amount of time. Our lab tests proved to be accurate, and throughout the ensuing years, marine vinyl esters have proved themselves well in the field.

The technical paper "A Study of Permeation Barriers to Prevent Blisters in Marine Composites and a Novel Technique for Evaluating Blister Formation," as well as the other papers referenced here, can be read in their entirety by clicking on their icons at the end of this article.

When you compare the information in the vinyl ester columns to those of the other resins, you will see that the marine vinyl ester remains remarkably constant over time while the other polyesters are beginning to fail.

There's that durability word again, strength is an Undeniable Benefit. Imagine how much more energy it would take to break the vinyl esters in these tests! This translates directly to an exceptionally strong composite for your boat. By the way, marine vinyl esters also wet-out and bond tighter to the glass reinforcements, which also contribute to the laminate's strength.

Says Who?
The hard -driven bass boat is an excellent example of "proof in the field." These boats demand the utmost in fatigue resistance yet also require the lightest, most sophisticated laminate possible. Marine vinyl esters are always up to the task. A well-known sailing yacht manufacturer has been using marine vinyl esters for 15 years and has a ten-year hull warranty against blistering on every boat. They're still waiting for their first claim.

Sleek, durable kayaks and canoes made by We-no-nah Canoe. Powerful, exciting off-shore racers crafted by Cigarette, Fountain and Advantage. Glamorous mega yachts by Christensen. Every laminated hull benefits from marine vinyl esters. Explore our marine case histories to get the real specifics.

Interplastic Corporation's technical paper, "A Study of Permeation Barriers to Prevent Blisters in Marine Composites and a Novel Technique for Evaluating Blister Formation," as well as the other papers referenced here, can be read in their entirety by clicking on the “Technical Papers” link on the navigation bar as listed above.

I trust this answers your concerns.

Greetings and fly safely
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:56 am

"Cabin under drillings holes everywhere.. to make it lighter… hehehe… no of course. To install all components.
Et voila !!!
With front wheel fixation"
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:23 pm

Latest from Poland. My new Xenon cabin fresh from the paintshop still wrapped in plastic. Great care is take at all times to protect the paintwork from any possible factory/workshop rash. My requested ( spec't ) colour ( Jaguar xj8 Topaz ) has been matched to the T !
Note from designer;
"You will also benefit of the very new windshield and roof windows color, specially for your machine. A modern still classical grey / blue tinted. Super match " Raphael.
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:48 am

And now for the latest news from the factory on my new Xenon ! Still on schedule .

Centre console fitted which houses cooler box,throttle, pre rotator lever , choke , electrics and swtich for aux fuel tank pump.
Undercarriage and nose wheel fitted.
Radiators for heater fitted
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:16 pm

Daily rapport on the constuction of my new Xenon from the factory in Poland !

"Hello today !
The carpeting process is at its end,
The HID (Xenon bulb light 50 000 volts) was installed, it is the new version with 50 watts ! Do never look at it directly, you would get blind, it is dam powerful white light…
All glasses and their respective surfaces are in preparation, the blue / grey windshield and sunroof ones are already made and gorgeous.
Have a great day,
Raphael"
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby FLYNOTE » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:39 am

Things are moving along just fine and on schedule.
Danie from Bethlehems' yellow Xenon is moving along at the same pace as mine and both should be reday to take to air by the end of next month. What makes it more special is that once the test flights are completed and the gyro signed off, they pop her into a freight carrier and the next week shes in your own hangar !
WHY DO MY PICs LOOK SO FUNNY ??? Am I doing something wrong? What says the guys in the know?
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Re: Xenon Gyro

Postby Vertical Tango » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:20 am

Flynote, your pics do not look funny, your gyro is simply built skew (**) :lol: :lol:
You cannot imagine how assymetric the fiberglass job is ! :roll:
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