Maiden fly in

[JFK]

Will be going to my firts fly in in a couple of weeks.
I Think that I am ok on the radio and landings and circuits are fine but what do I still need to look out for when getting close to the field
And all other advice will be appreciated

Flew into the Presidents air race with a trike after the action and was quite scarry
Trike no:5 in circuit with ATC

[RV4ker (RIP)]

If you handled PTAR you will be fine. Eyeball 101 is best tool...

[Morph]

Study the layout of the field before hand.

If they are on a general freq (eg. 124. listen in for activity around the field. You will get an idea of the procedure from hearing the other pilots. If the flyin is uncontrolled, i.e. no ATC, abide by the published joining procedures. These are normally published on the invitation to the flyin.

Then join overhead, look out for other traffic, Check your windsock. If there are other guys in circuit, follow their lead, unless the wind is really blowing in the wrong direction

listen, and look. Decend on the deadside and look for the rest of the traffic. Anounce that you are joining on the crosswind leg. If you know how many are in cicuit then you are x +1, i.e. there is a guy on final, a guy on downwind, then you are number 3 in circuit. Turn downwind. As soon as number 1 has landed and cleared the runway (he should say so, then you become number 2, announce your position, on downwind, as number 2, and your intentions, i.e. full stop, touch and go, etc.)

If somebody pushes in , i.e. joins long final, then extend your downwind until they have past you before turning base. (Make sure you announce that this is the case.

If there is an ATC and/or a special freq, change to this freq at the recommended documented distance out, i.e. 5 miles out. The conversation will be something like this

Plane - Saldanha Tower, EPH good morning
Tower - EPH, Saldanha Tower, transmit
Plane - Saldanha Tower, EPH, Approaching the airfield from the east, 5 miles out, request landing instructions
Tower - EPH, Saldanha Tower, Join Base runway 20, QNH 1019, look out for Cessna ABC on Final, Call when final
Plane - Join Base 20, QNH 1019, have Cessna in sight, calling when final, EPH
Plane, Turning Final- Saldanha Tower, EPH, final, runway 20
Tower, EPH, Saldanha Tower, cleared for landing, wind light and variable, after landing exit first right and taxi to Parking area
Plane - CLeared for landing, copy wind, exit first right, EPH

Simple

[Trikenut]

Hi,
I havent started my training yet so i have a question!
What are EPH's, Bases and QNH's?
Also, what are the requirements of a fly in if you are not a licenced trike pilot but you are flying with your instructor?
Please don't me i'm just trying to learn!

[Sox]

Haven't started training, but will give it a go:-

EPH : Aircraft registration (ZU-FST)
QNH : Airfield elevation
BASE : Airfield IATA code (FAPN)

Correct or not?

[Tracer]

Haven't started training, but will give it a go:-

EPH : Aircraft registration (ZU-FST)
QNH : Airfield elevation
BASE : Airfield IATA code (FAPN)

Correct or not?

Very briefly explained..

QNH - It is the pressure setting for the barometric altimeter which will cause the altimeter to read altitude above mean sea level within a certain defined region.
BASE - Around most airports and airfields there are "Traffic patterns" called circuits:
1. The section extending from the runway ahead is called the "departure leg" or "upwind leg".
2. The first short side is called the crosswind leg.
3. The long side parallel to the runway but flown in the opposite direction is called the downwind leg.
4. The short side ahead of the runway is called the base leg.
5. The section from the end of base leg to the start of the runway is called the final approach or final

[Trikenut]

Haven't started training, but will give it a go:-

EPH : Aircraft registration (ZU-FST)
QNH : Airfield elevation
BASE : Airfield IATA code (FAPN)

Correct or not?

Very briefly explained..

QNH - It is the pressure setting for the barometric altimeter which will cause the altimeter to read altitude above mean sea level within a certain defined region.
BASE - Around most airports and airfields there are "Traffic patterns" called circuits:
1. The section extending from the runway ahead is called the "departure leg" or "upwind leg".
2. The first short side is called the crosswind leg.
3. The long side parallel to the runway but flown in the opposite direction is called the downwind leg.
4. The short side ahead of the runway is called the base leg.
5. The section from the end of base leg to the start of the runway is called the final approach or final

Please don't me but I'm still lost about the QNH!
Help????????

[Sox]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

QNH is a Q code. It is a pressure setting used by pilots, air traffic control (ATC) and low frequency weather beacons to refer to the barometric altimeter setting which will cause the altimeter to read altitude above mean sea level within a certain defined region. This region may be fairly widespread, or apply only to the airfield for which the QNH was given. An airfield QNH will cause the altimeter to read field elevation on landing irrespective of the temperature. In the UK the lowest forecast value of QNH for an altimeter setting region is called the "Regional Pressure Setting" and may be used to ensure safe terrain separation when cruising at lower altitudes. In some parts of the world a similar procedure is adopted and this is known as "Regional QNH" however this name has been modified to the above in the UK for reasons of ambiguity.

QNH differs from QFE which refers to the altimeter setting that will cause the altimeter to read the height above a specific aerodrome, and therefore zero on landing. While using QFE is convenient while flying in a traffic circuit of an airfield, the most common procedure when flying "cross country" is to set the altimeter to either the local QNH or the standard pressure setting (1013.2 hPa). When 1013 hPa (mbar) is set on an altimeter subscale the aircraft's vertical position is referred to as a Flight level instead of an altitude.

A common mnemonic for QNH is "Nautical Height". Student pilots sometimes remember QNH as "Query Newlyn Harbour". Newlyn Harbour in Cornwall, UK is home to the National Tidal and Sea Level Facility which is a reference for mean sea level. Another way to remember is "Q - Not Here" meaning it refers to the pressure setting that applies away from the airfield. This is to distinguish it from QFE, which novices sometimes confuse.

Air Traffic Control will pass the QNH to pilots on clearing them to descend below the transition level, as part of air traffic control clearance, on request of the pilot or when the QNH changes. A typical radio conversation may be:-

Pilot: Golf Whiskey Alpha Charlie Foxtrot, requesting Cotswold QNH
ATC: Golf Charlie Fox, Cotswold QNH one-zero-one-three
Pilot: QNH one-zero-one-three, Golf Charlie Fox
Here, the pilot of GWACF requests the regional air pressure, which is given as 1013 millibars for the Cotswold region (one of twenty Altimeter Setting Regions into which UK Lower Airspace is divided). The pilot reads back the safety-critical part of the transmission (in this case the QNH), as it is required to do.

In most parts of the world, QNH is given in millibar (or hecto Pascal). In North America, QNH is given in inches and hundredths thereof inches of mercury (in the example, ATC would say "Golf Charlie Fox, altimeter two niner niner two" as in 29.92 inches of mercury).

[Morph]

Sorry , making assumptions here

EPH is my aircraft reg. replace with yours. You would normally say, echo papa hotel.

QNH, Query Naughtical Height, Height above seat level. The ATC will tell you what to use.

Trikenut, when you do your radio licence, you will understand this. No disrespect

[Trikenut]

As far as i understand now... the QHN is basically the Height ASL of the airfield, mesured in pressure.
Correct?

[JFK]

Thanks guys for the input and Tracer
We should all Know what a circuit looks like it is just that I am scared of missing something

[Morph]

JFK,

call me, oh83, too3six,fife153.

[John Young]

QNH, Query Naughtical Height, Height above seat level. The ATC will tell you what to use.

Trikenut, when you do your radio licence, you will understand this. No disrespect.

Maybe I must go on a radio course as well.

How high above the seat level must you be when joining overhead?

Trikenut, obviously Sir Morph meant sea level.

Regards
John ZU-sEXY

[Morph]

QNH is the local pressure setting for your current location, that will give you the exact altitude above sea level of your airfield. If you look at a weather map, you will see lines they call Isobars that have a number written on them, i.e. 1021, 1022, 1023. This is the predicted air pressure at ground level. Now there is only 2 ways you can really know the exact number, 1. an ATC has an instrument and he tells you what it is, or 2. you know the elevation (i.e. height of the airfield above sea level). When you rotate your altimeter's knob, you will see the elevation and the pressure reading changes. If you then set the altimeter to the known elevation of the airfield, i.e. 200 ft you can read what the pressure is on your airfield at that moment in time(say 1018) Remember this changes constantly as the weather moves so later today with heat, or tommorow the pressure is different.

Now when you fly a long cross country, you have no idea what the pressure is along the way and you fly higher than 1500ft AGL (Above Ground Level) you have to set your pressure setting to the International Standard Atmosphere of 1013.25 HectoPascals. What will happen is the altitude reading on the gauge will change, but every other aircraft in the sky will also be on this same pressure setting, resulting in readings relevant to each other. (From now on you talk about Flight levels not Altitudes i.e. 3000ft, is FL 030, 8000ft is FL080 etc)

Now once you get the other side, you have no clue on the local pressure, so you either ask the ATC, if there is one, or another plane in the sky in the area. Once landed and for your return journey, you start with the known altitude of the airfield again.

[Tracer]

Thanks guys for the input and Tracer
We should all Know what a circuit looks like it is just that I am scared of missing something

I know what you mean. It's easy to loose your focus and then things gets scary.

(only reason I posted the pic, is cause that's the only way I understand it, pictures say a thousand words...)