Radio Calls, as a beginner

[Alkemac]

I have two very simple questions relating to radio calls..

I understand that it is always a case of who you are calling, who you are, and what your intention is.

So, before entering the runway 19 for take off, given the above, what would the communication be if it was going to be "touch and go" ?

Conversely, if approaching on right downwind, before baseleg on runway 01, what would the communication be if it was going to be "touch and go" ?

Thanks!

[Low Level]

Rule no.1 on radio calls is short and sweet, with relevant information, therefore, upon take off nobody needs to know what your intentions will be after take off. They want to know what is happenning now.

So, before entering the runway 19 for take off, given the above, what would the communication be if it was going to be "touch and go" ?

"Airfield traffic, XYZ entering runway 19 for take off."
or
"Airfield traffic, XYZ entering and bactracking runway 19."

Conversely, if approaching on right downwind, before baseleg on runway 01, what would the communication be if it was going to be "touch and go" ?

"Airfield traffic, XYZ on RH downwind for runway 01, touch and go."

[RV4ker (RIP)]

I disagree. Always make mention of what your intentions are after take off. Helps when other are routing inbound. They then know where to look for you.

"Airfield traffic, XYZ entering runway 19 for left hand circuits."
or
"Airfield traffic, XYZ entering and bactracking runway 19 for left hand circuits."

Conversely, if approaching on right downwind, before baseleg on runway 01, what would the communication be if it was going to be "touch and go" ?

"Airfield traffic, XYZ on RH downwind for runway 01, touch and go and remain in circuit or route out NW for eg."

If you don't state your intentions, any arriving aircraft will usually have to ask. Not a problem when it quiet, but when busy then it can become a problem. Also with tgrikes the closing speeds are not huge, but when you migrate to airports used b bigger iron closing speeds can become a problem....

Keep it short, but useful. If I were coming in to land at airport from west and guy was taking off and heading west I would want to know about it...

[Splinter]

Getting the popcorn!!!! This is almost like the oil subject..... It never ends and everyone is right in his own mind! Some want long detailed calls, others want it very short!

RED

[Alkemac]

I'm sure I can decide for myself how much needs to be said to satisfy my instructor.

[Mogas]

I am with George.
To answer the question:
Stating your intentions for touch and go; Do this on your downwind or final approach call or both, not before take-off.
Keep it short but include relevant information.
Think about what you will say before you transmit.
Some other things to bear in mind; VHF is pretty much line of sight. Your will be able to receive further than how far you can transmit.
I like to turn on my radio soon after start and monitor the freq during warm up. This way I can build up a picture of operating traffic in the area.
On the ground for the initial call I will simply clear myself to the holding point. I will add to this if there is someone in the circuit.
For the run-up I position myself so that I can see final approach and iff possible the runway for take-off.
After run-up I will broadcast a short message to include my immediate intentions after take-off.
"XXX traffic; XXX (reg) XXXX (type) rolling runway XX. Left turn after take-off, remaining in the circuit OR climbing XXXX feet for XXXX (destination)
After take-off I will again broadcast my intentions for any possible inbound traffic that did not get the message when I was on the ground.
"XXX traffic; XXX (reg) XXXX (type) airbourne out of XXX. Climbing through XXXX feet for XXXX feet or flight level on track XXX destination.
When I hear traffic on the radio I like to know if it is a PC12 or a trike on the radio, hence the insertion of type information. The obvious performance differences have relevance.
Mogas

[Alkemac]

Thanks very much - appreciated!

[ZS-NEL]

rolling runway XX.

Please don't use the term "rolling" but rather "taking off" as rolling can be heard as and mistaken for "holding" to an aircraft backtracking or crossing who cannot see the treshold of the runway. Exactly what happened with the PANAM airliner crash some time ago.

[gertcoetzee]

The most important radiowork is being overlooked here. When in a gaggle, it is imperative to make calls as often as possible in the line of
"Piet, waar is jy nou"
"By die windpomp agter SHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh beep"
etc etc

[Low Level]

Gert, is die weer nou weer te sleg om te vlieg daar in die Kaap ??

[extra300s]

[Morph]

The most important radiowork is being overlooked here. When in a gaggle, it is imperative to make calls as often as possible in the line of
"Piet, waar is jy nou"
"By die windpomp agter SHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh beep"
etc etc

waar gaan ons braai?

Daar by jou.

Hoe laat?

Wanneer die rugby klaar is

Wie dink jy gaan wen?

Normal examples of Wintervogel radio work.

[Trikenut]

I work the radio like this: (This is not exact, just the gist of what I have been trained to say)
If I am wrong don't me, I'm still learning and I haven't done a radio licence yet!
On Take-Off
Airfield Traffic, microlight XYZ is lining up runway 23
When on Crosswind/Downwind Leg
Airfield Traffic, microlight XYZ is left crosswind/downwind 23
When on base leg
Airfield Traffic, microlight XYZ is left base 23 for full-stop landing/touch and go (Calling the type of landing when on base leg depends on how much traffic there is. If it is only me, sometimes I only call the landing type on finals)
When on Finals
Airfield Traffic, microlight XYZ is finals 23 for full-stop landing/touch and go.
Once I have landed and want to taxi to the hanger
Airfield Traffic, microlight XYZ is vacating the active, taxi to the hanger
Hope this helps,
Ross

[Wargames]

finals 23

Please not. Always final approach runway 23.

No short cuts.

[Trikenut]

Please not. Always final approach runway 23.

No short cuts.

OK, will chat to Louis about this.
Like I said though, this is what I have picked up from listening to the radio, chatting to people, and my limited experiance.
Regards,
Ross