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Synthetic oil
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:29 pm
by Sad-Ham
I went to purchase Castrol TTS this morning and was told it is no longer available... I purchased a bottle of the so called replacement (Castrol Power 1 Racing 2T jaso fc) but on reading the label find no recomendation for use in microlights as was on the TTS label. Does anyone know what is the replacement for Castrol TTS?
I know synthetic and mineral oils do not mix but what about different brands of synthetic? If I change from TTS to another synthetic will it be necessary to flush the oil injection system on my 582 or can I switch to a different synthetic once the level in the oil tank is zero?
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:49 pm
by Boet
Go wash all that synthetic shit out of your engine`s system, and do as the damn book says. TCW3 super outboard plus. No problemo. Of hou jy van sukkel?

Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:17 am
by Sad-Ham
That is what I have decided to do but what is the best way to flush out the system to ensure I remove all traces of synthetic before I re-fill with mineral oil ??
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:14 pm
by Boet
Remove the whole lot, clean out with petrol, let dry. Replace everything, pre-mix a bit of petrol, just in case of some air bubbles in the ouling system, and you should be fine. Decided to go the TCW3 route. A good friend phoned me yesterday. He has been using API ' Super Chainsaw" spec oil in his 582. After listening to the wrong advice.

Now after 300 hrs: abnormal carbon build up, and BOTH bottom rings STUCK. His friend overhauled his 582 at the same hours, rings fine, and VERY little carbon. Need I say more.
API super Chainsaw is for the air cooled engines.
TCW 3 Super outboard Plus is for the water cooled engines.
End of argument.
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:53 am
by Sad-Ham
Thanks for the advice Boet. I ran my previous 582 on super chainsaw with no ill effects but will go the super outboard route on this one once I have it all cleaned out!
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:37 pm
by pietskiet02
aai tog..
what i will recomend is the following.
stay on synthetic but switch to a other brand.
ever heard of BP VISTRA SYNTHETIC, great stuff,very low and i mean low carborn deposit and that is what u need!!!
to open the motor and clean everything out is lookoing for trouble.
my 582 has done 700hours plus on bp oil,and still going strong
try it u WONT BE SORRY!!!!!!

Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:24 am
by REDROMAN
I agree,BP Vistra 250 is one of the best oils.Know of a lot of people in East London only useing this oil.I use it myself and after taking of my engines manifold for inspection i could still see the factory hone marks - clean and shiny.As i have heard it is not a good thing to change oils - stick with the one you used from start.Know of a guy who changed oil to still chainsaw oil - seased his engine in the air after 1 hour.Lots of opinions but the track record on BP Vistra 250 looks very good.i am sure there are other good oils as well - this is only my opinion on the experience i have.Good luck.
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:08 am
by Cali
To answer your original question. I had the same problem this week. I bought a trike from someone who used Castrol Super TT only from day one. When I went to get some for myself I got the same reply as you. Since this is my first trike I was not sure what to do, so I contacted the only importer of Rotax in Oz ( Bert Flood Imports ) to get some advice. Here was their response.
Cali,
Castrol Super TT has been changed to " Castrol Activ 2T " and this oil is fine to use.
We do not recomend the use of the other TTS one, as this oil is synthetic and attracts moisture out of the atmosphere rather than repelling it.
Stick with the Castrol Activ 2T and all should be fine.
Regards
Wal
Hope his helps. I am going to follow his advice.
Cheers
Cali
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:38 am
by Slider
I have been using “CASTROL Super Chainsaw" on my 503 from the day i got her. After around 400 hrs my AMO told me that the engine had abnormal carbon build up, and the rings were stuck to the pistons , and had to be broken off.

My mixture is correct as per Rotax spec. They suggested I look at something like Engen Super outboard 2-stroke oil
Im not sure about this Engen oil, so at this stage i have:
BP Vista 250
Engen Super outboard 2-stroke
Castrol Active 2T
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:08 pm
by cobra
Slider wrote:I have been using “CASTROL Super Chainsaw" on my 503 from the day i got her. After around 400 hrs my AMO told me that the engine had abnormal carbon build up, and the rings were stuck to the pistons , and had to be broken off.

My mixture is correct as per Rotax spec. They suggested I look at something like Engen Super outboard 2-stroke oil
Im not sure about this Engen oil, so at this stage i have:
BP Vista 250
Engen Super outboard 2-stroke
Castrol Active 2T
Same can be said for Castol TTS and Motal Synthetic since they stop producing TTS, been using it since 0 hours and did an AP last week on 370h, carbon built-up

and bottom rings on both piston stuck

so much for paying R94.00 a litre versus R19.00
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:47 pm
by Slider
Found this on Castrol Active, but now the question. WILL IT WORK on a 503 aircooled engine??
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiong ... Id=7018615
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:33 pm
by Cali
Same can be said for Castol TTS and Motal Synthetic since they stop producing TTS,
been using it since 0 hours and did an AP last week on 370h, carbon built-up
and bottom rings on both piston stuck
so much for paying R94.00 a litre versus R19.00[/quote]
Castrol Active is a mineral oil and "Motal Synthetic" is obviously not. Which one is responsible for the build-up? How many hrs did you do on the Castrol and how many on the Motal? Did you have it inspected before you switched over?
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:05 am
by Maybe
So now...after this lenghty discussion.....
and as was said by Cali:
"Cali,
Castrol Super TT has been changed to " Castrol Activ 2T " and this oil is fine to use.
We do not recomend the use of the other TTS one, as this oil is synthetic and attracts moisture out of the atmosphere rather than repelling it.
Stick with the Castrol Activ 2T and all should be fine.... "
Do we now go with mineral or synthetic. >>??
Was anyone able to find Castrol Active 2T in south africa? and where? at what price.?
I could only find Castrol 2T extended - any chance this is the same thing?
What would be the best oil to go with?
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:53 pm
by BOATCH
Ek het n prys gekry vir die olie in Oos Londen en die prys was R581.90 sonder belasting. Hier is die Nom 043 7361316 hoop dit is nie te ver van jou af nie.
Re: Synthetic oil
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:39 am
by Maybe
BOATCH wrote:Ek het n prys gekry vir die olie in Oos Londen en die prys was R581.90 sonder belasting. Hier is die Nom 043 7361316 hoop dit is nie te ver van jou af nie.
Is dit die active 2T een?? Ek het met 'n agent in gauteng gepraat....en hy weet toe net van die gewone 2T.
Ek neem aan jy praat van die active 2T?