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Way must I not buy a!
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:13 pm
by Gideon
Hi all
I want to bay one of the following aircraft, BUT do not now which one to choose? The plains are 1: Mig (viatika with 912 Rotax) 2: Kestrel With 582 Rotax Both low hrs +- 100...3: Bushbaby with out engine, I do have 80hp R-Drive engine in garage to fit.
Really need help!!!
Tnx Gideon
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:56 pm
by Mogas
What engine do you plan to put on the Bushbaby?
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:07 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
Go test fly the Mig. I have heard mixed reports. I know i farmer here who loves it (been in fair share of prangs and walked away from most), but most hate it?
Don't know Kestrel.
Bushbaby - Engine instalation is a big job. if you want to fly rather than be grease monkey maybe consider a flying one. Also reports on non Rattex Jabi engines on BB's have been
Have a look at the Cubby. Not for everyone, but some can be had for not much more than the mig/Kestrel were advertised for...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:01 pm
by Gideon
Mogas wrote:What engine do you plan to put on the Bushbaby?
Hi Mogas, Do not now..... I have got a VW 80hp, can get hold of a Subaru 80hp and maybe a rotax 912 80hp.
tnx Gideon
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:03 pm
by Gideon
TNX RV4ker
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:05 pm
by Mogas
Hi Gideon
Do you have pics of the Mig, the Kestral and the Bushbaby. Prices?
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:14 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
There was a 912 mig in junk Mail for R100K. Kestrel was on here for R125K
viewtopic.php?t=3639&start=0&postdays=0 ... highlight=. Don't know bush baby price, but kit alone is in region of R80K I think?
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:52 pm
by GR8-DAD
The Mig is quite a piece of machine - obviously way overdesigned, tad on heavy side and therefore requires a powerfull engine - 80 hp might be on thin side at reef altitude when 2 up. IMHO.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:00 pm
by Mogas
Does anyone have a pic of a "Mig". If it is what I think it is, does not have the reputation of a good handeling machine, also way over engineered and too heavy.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:09 pm
by GR8-DAD
Mogas wrote:Does anyone have a pic of a "Mig". If it is what I think it is, does not have the reputation of a good handeling machine, also way over engineered and too heavy.
Yip, that's the one

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:10 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
http://www.oskbes.ru/890u_e.htm
Aerosud had 9 or 10 airframes in their hangar at FAGM at one stage. They were used for research
http://www.oskbes.ru/geov_e.htm and a school training project some time back. As I say some love it, but most hate it? Am told it built like the proverbial brick Sh!t house...
The 912 is almost worth the full purchase price (providing it OK). think the one advertised may be the same one in latest SAF & is/was based nelspruit or somewhere in lowveld.

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:16 pm
by Mogas
Thanks RV4ker
Yes, thats the one. Have also seen the one at FANS and not surprised it is on the market. Has not flown for ages.
If I had the $$ would buy it for the 912, wheels & brakes, instruments and hardware then bin the rest. It would be a bargain.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:17 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:28 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:32 am
by Morph
Bush Baby with the 912. Jabi motors are not a good fit for the BB because they are direct drive engines, and thus cannot throw a long prop. The prop length is too short for the frontal area of the BB (It's quite a big cowling).
The Mig is horiffic IHMO, way over engineered, and at reef altitudes you need a 100hp or higher just to get airborne. I remmember when I did my licence in Bapsfontein in 2000 there were some that did circuits at the Bapsfontein airfield. They needed full rpm to stay in the air, and dropped like a stone when you went to idle.
Dont know the Kestel