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Paintwork for Kitplanes ?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:54 am
by Pykie
Howzit Guys,

I'd like to chat to a paint workshop to get a feel for the cost & time provisions for a typical 3-axis microlight paintjob.

Any contact details / recommendations ?

Cheers

Kevin

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:06 pm
by Nick
Don't know where you are Pykie but if in Gauteng I'd approach Justin at Automagic - just behind the BMW garage near Grand Central airport Midrand.

Unit 7
High Tech Village
Superior Road
Midrand

Tel: 011 312 1133/1162
Fax: 011 312 1225
Cell: 083 Five hundred 5375

Email: midrand @ automagic.co.za

I have a 12 year old BMW 328 E36 that runs boringly well despite its 260,000 km. It does everything I need a car to do, so I'm keeping it. It was looking a little tired paintwise, so I decided to get a respray. After shopping around a good deal I managed to get a complete respray done for R 10.5 k by Justin, this included some minor panel work. I thought this excellent value. He doesn't specialise in aircraft, but I cant see that being much of an issue really, it must be the same technique and paint technology for cars and planes. If I go the kitplane route, I'd definitely outsource the painting to these folks.

Justin's crew did a great job. If you do call him, tell him Nick Good sent you.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:21 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
Ncik
Has he ever done any aeries?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:25 pm
by Nick
RV4ker wrote:Ncik
Has he ever done any aeries?
Not to the best of my knowledge, is it somehow different? Reading around automotive paint seems pretty standard on light aircraft and I can't see the technique is somehow different.

Hell, I've never 'done any' Norwegians, but I'm sure the technique's pretty much the same!

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:29 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Got any Norwegians lying around. i happy to test theory for you :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

PS
Only reason for my question is if he done aeries at airport before or if only feasible for kit's which can be trailered to his workshop, but I now much keener to follow your Norwegians theory than discuss paint... :roll:

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:37 pm
by Nick
I'm pretty sure you'd have to trailer to him, best to phone, it might end up being a nice market niche for the fellow. On the other matter - if I did, you'd have to settle for sloppy seconds...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:46 pm
by RV4ker (RIP)
!!!!

Although it sounds oooohhh soooo tempting i gonna have to def pass on the shlopy seconds... -xX ;);)

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:55 pm
by The Agent
The paint shop at Petit has allways done a good job.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:50 pm
by Bennie Vorster
Pykie Make sure of what material your microlight is made of, a respray on a Bush Baybie will set you back around 25k coz you have to replace all the covering material as well. Then your paint mixes is also not the same as when automotive paint is mixed, so do your home work before starting something like this. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:30 am
by Pykie
Cheers guys,

Thanks for the info (and the entertainment :D ).

I'll also see if theres some blikkie shops worth chatting to (Grand,Lanseria, Rand etc).

Any other thoughts appreciated.

Kevin

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:13 am
by Morph
I would not trust an unknown to repraying a farbic aerie. You have to be very careful when sanding as you can very easily go right through the fabric. :shock: :twisted: . You can repray it without having to recover but it will add weight, up to 5 KG

Paint wise you can use standard automotive paints, 2K is the best, but you need to add 30% plasticizer/softflex additive per volume of paint. This allows the paint to flex and not crack.

If it is a blik aerie then that's different and any automotive should be able to do it.

I don't know who in Jhb can do it but Boet on this forum regularly recovers and resprays aeries and does a good job. He is unfortunately of Loeriesfontein in th middle of the Nothern Cape.

Paintwork for Kitplanes

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:41 pm
by Pykie
Thanks Morph

I'll contact Boet.

Kevin

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:20 pm
by Morph
boet

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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:44 pm
by weedy
I'm no expert but have yet to see a 2K paint job that does not crack.

2K is not good on fabric even if plastisiser is added, it leaches out over time then the cracks appear, use dope or polyurethane paint.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:47 pm
by Le Pou
Re paint for fabric covered aeries, if I had the dough I would use the Poly-Fiber system but I dont so that is out! :( Automotive 2K cracks? :( Polyurethane is mentioned :) but what brand, type etc :? Can anyone comment on their experience with polyurethane? Or with any other paint systems?