Microlight's VS Blik's

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Microlight's VS Blik's

Postby loansharkblv » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:46 am

Something has been puzzling me for quite a while now – I try to spend a bit of time each day reading both the Microlight and Avcom sites and I see that there is defiantly a LOT more activity on the Avcom site.

I remember some stats that shows that ML’s make up more than half of the a/c registered at the moment yet we have less than half of Avcom registered users.

Also about half of the members here have only posted 1 or 2 posts. Why?

Is it because the average member here has limited experience and is “afraid” of asking a question that may seem silly? I hope not – Or is it that we are all to busy flying … :wink:

I see this site as the perfect place to ask questions or share information and thoughts – I remember when I first moved over to trikes I spent many many hours on the BMAA and SAMICRO sites asking all types of questions –

To each and every one I received much appreciated advice – I think my favourite of all times was “What would the effect of a birdstrike be?” – The top two answers of all time had to be – Something about a race between my bowels eating a hole in the seat and evacuating at the same time or the explanation of the effect if the bird was still sitting in a tree.

Anyway, the point is, for the newbies ask ask and ask some more – There are some excellent pilots on this site who have a wealth of information. For those of you that have a wealth of information ask share share (Nobody ever has enough)

Let’s all make an effort to get at least one additional ML student / pilot / guru to join up and contribute in the next week.
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Postby The Agent » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:15 am

I come from a blik background, And most important is that I was born BC
(before computors) all these links and stuff is to much for me, I find Avcom just a lot more user friendly, and the day this site is like that it will huMMMMMMMMMMMM.
No disrespect Demon you are doing a woderful job, it's not your fault some of us are bozo's.
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Postby Griffin » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:20 am

Agent. Could you be a bit more specific about "user friendly"??

Must say that I get so overwelmed by the quantity of BS on AVCOM that all I read are the for sale notices and the Technical section.
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Postby skybound® » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:28 am

Griffin wrote:Agent. Could you be a bit more specific about "user friendly"??

Must say that I get so overwelmed by the quantity of BS on AVCOM that all I read are the for sale notices and the Technical section.
You mean that you don't visit the Micro section there? No BS there. :!: :twisted: I know many of the 'bliks' read that section when there is a new post - so is a perfect opportunity for the MLers to help educate them and build a bridge over the great divide :wink:
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Postby Morph » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:32 am

The Agent wrote:I come from a blik background, And most important is that I was born BC
(before computors) all these links and stuff is to much for me, I find Avcom just a lot more user friendly, and the day this site is like that it will huMMMMMMMMMMMM.
No disrespect Demon you are doing a woderful job, it's not your fault some of us are bozo's.
I had the most wonderful flying experience yesterday with phto's and I cannot post them. (to dom)
In what way is AVCOM different. I appears to be the same forum application. How do you get to post pics on AVCOM?
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Postby skybound® » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:39 am

There is a button at the bottom of the post screen that allows you to upload a picture or attachment (pdf,doc,xls....). You then browse for the file on your machine, and when you post it attaches the file and displays the attachment for you.
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Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:28 am

The Agent wrote:I had the most wonderful flying experience yesterday with phto's and I cannot post them. (to dom)
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Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:34 am

Avcom been around a lot longer as interactive forum rather than info page (going back to Aeropages days). Demon's old site was not interactive and thus people used to get info from it, but not interact. Changing mind set. Will take some time...

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Also plenty BS on Avcom. Some good, some bad, but BS none the less. Majority there also only a few posts. The site is what you make it through your participation.

The picture thing needs a hosting server (which costs bucks). Maybe a topic on how to get a picture onto the web for free at one of the many hosting sites is a good idea? (Where are the IT Guru's?) :wink:
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Postby The Agent » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:37 am

Thanks RV4ker for helping,Guys dont get me wrong the only thing I battle with is the posting of photo's. I will make an attempt to sit with someone and get a lesson or two.
I spend alot of time on this site and enjoy it, I would like to be more active on this one.
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Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:38 am

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Postby The Agent » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:23 pm

RV4KER maybe a beer at Rand sometime tomorrow.]
Perhaps we can pull RV in as well, and enyone else of course.
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Postby Tumbleweed » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:58 pm

I continually search for new posts and notice that some topics, although are not being reponded to, get high viewer ratings. Maybe, many are like me and wait to l'earn' and not able to add substance.

I think, again, if the moderators could create an archive, or Sticky re; Ballistic chutes, Insurance, Radio work, Windy Flying, e.t.c. and drag relevant posts to that segment and filter out all the crap, it would keep as a reference.

For example; This evening flew at 18h00, beautifully calm, slowly showing signs of wind developing. After 20 min, joined circuit for 'touch and go' and experienced sudden 'sink' 20m from the ground during final flare.

As I touched down noticd the winsock 'flapping 'up and down'. Gunned the motor for 40 m.p.h.take off, and with my 582 and 10 yar old pax, battled to retain normal elevation into the wind with full throttle.

Extremely bumpy, whilst in (normal) climbing turn into downwind, the wind would not let me turn. Levelled out, extended turning radius but the only turn I could get was to 'crab' at a 10 degree angle. Turned into the wind, straight and level, and turned rightwards, allowing the wind to guide my direction.

This was against the direction of the circuit but I was the only one in the air.

Once downwing, noticed the winsock 'flapping up and down'. Completed full stop (embarracingly bouncy) landing.

I know from sailing here, the wind can turn 360 degrees within 20 minutes, particularly just before a threatening storm, but there was no cloud build up or visible weather pattern.
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Postby Morph » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:49 pm

DeltaVV

Firstly, the moderators of this forum are guys like all of you who are keen on flying, love the lifestyle, tend to be fairly computer literate, which typically translates to high pressure , super stress, IT related jobs that require 18 hour days. We do not neccessarily have the time to individually sift throught the posts from 666 (sorry for the number but that's how many registered users we have at this moment) and select what is worth saving or not.

What is great about this forum is if you do post a repeated question, and the answer is detailed in another post, one of us will point you in the right direction.

Now wrt to your specific airfield and landing experience. Every airfield has it's own idiosyncrosies (not sure of the spellin', late night and all :oops: ). It would be very difficult for us to post something generally that would warn you to look out for a sudden sink on the last few moments before touch down if your airfield is completely unobstructed i.e. no rotor turbulance etc...

What we can do is post issues about particlar airfields based on your experience. For example, Morning Star is great on no wind days, , If there is a SE blowing, you will get a strong sink coming in on finals on 20, if it is blowing easterly, there will be rotors coming off the hangars at the south eastern side of the field, if it is blowing westerly the Port Jackson trees will make it very difficult for trike to land, and so forth. We cannot predict these things, they are airfield dependent.

What is more important is, of you are faced with a difficult landing, fly the plane, and if you feel it is near impossible to land, go around like you did even though it is against your natural instinct , and try again, if not, divert to another field.
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Postby loansharkblv » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:00 pm

Delta VV wrote:I continually search for new posts and notice that some topics, although are not being reponded to, get high viewer ratings. Maybe, many are like me and wait to l'earn' and not able to add substance..
Delta VV,

This is exactly the thing that I am on about, we all have something to add. From this post there is a heap of detail for the “young” pilot” as well as a reminder for those with a few more hours.

To prove my point I will expand –

“showing signs of wind developing” – Observation and Met.
“noticed the windsock” – Observation
“wind would not let me turn. Levelled out, extended turning radius but the only turn I could get was to 'crab' at a 10 degree angle” – Technique
“I know from sailing here, the wind” – Local Knowledge

Apart from the purely technical it is also part of the reason while we are all here – to share our experiences with other people committed to our sport.

Let’s hope there is more decent flying weather this weekend.
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Postby FAWGie » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:15 pm

loansharkblv wrote: Let’s hope there is more decent flying weather this weekend.
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