New CAA Part 61....What's going on?

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New CAA Part 61....What's going on?

Postby FAWGie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:14 pm

An extraction from the Avcom forum....
CAA has issued Gazette 28382 dated 11 January 2006.
This gazette proposes changes to various Parts of the Civil Aviation Legislation. The period for comment closes on 11 February 2006.

The main areas covered are changes to Part66 and the introduction of Part 61.

The Gazette can be found at http://www.info.gov.za/gazette/regulati ... /28382.pdf
There seems to be no reference to a microlight pilot license, although there is reference to a type rating for 3-axis microlight types.....

Fairy flycatcher, could you shed some light.....please? :shock:
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Postby Fairy Flycatcher » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:39 pm

Part 61 is Private Pilot Licensing. It does not deal with any microlight, hang glider, gyroplane, baloon, glider pilots licence. These are covered in the Recreational Pilots Licensing. The proposed part 62

Part 62, Recreational Pilots Licensing, is being held up by the acceptance of the technical standards. Apparantly Aero Club submitted technical standards other than those written and accepted by the industry (mostly MISASA), and those will then cause some additional hold-ups. The other issue in Part 62 is that CAA are apposed to commercial work with NTCA as proposed and accepted in Part 96, and they are especially unhappy about Part 96 Authorization, which would be something similar to a VFR comm for NTCA.

Part 61 has been published for a long time, but could not really come into effect because of delays on Part 62. All the software at CAA has been geared for Part 61 for the last 3 years though, and this has caused many hick-ups and upsets, as the old ANR's (the current licensing law) does not always fit into the administrative procedure (based on Part 61 and 62)

Part 61 will allow some credit from 3-axis microlight flying towards PPL, hence the reference. You will also be alowed to fly 3-axis microlights as endorsed in your logbook under your PPL (I think- still being debated but makes sense) No credit from trikes though, and none from gliders, both of which you will need a RPL to fly.

I can only imagine that CAA have found a way of making Part 61 work wihtout Part 62, or that Part 62 are finally being written in (with Aero Club once again keeping us in the dark?)
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Postby FAWGie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:01 pm

Thanks FF,

I battle to make head or tail of their documents.....
you explanation makes a lot of sense, so we will have to wait and see for the release of Part 62 sometime in the future......
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Postby Tumbleweed » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:36 pm

(9) The holder of a glider or gyroplane pilot licence, or of a recreational pilot license
endorsed for the category microlight aeroplane, shall be entitled to be credited
with not more than 25 hours flight time acquired in a microlight aeroplane, glider
or gyroplane, as the case may be, towards the total flight time experience
prescribed for the issuing of a private or higher grade pilot licence (aeroplane).
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Postby Fairy Flycatcher » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:49 pm

Delta VV wrote:(9) The holder of a glider or gyroplane pilot licence, or of a recreational pilot license
endorsed for the category microlight aeroplane, shall be entitled to be credited
with not more than 25 hours flight time acquired in a microlight aeroplane, glider
or gyroplane, as the case may be, towards the total flight time experience
prescribed for the issuing of a private or higher grade pilot licence (aeroplane).
This is in the version of Part 61 in the bound blue books (CAR Beek Volume 2), This version still includes Microlight, glider, paraglider instructors etc. as part of Part 61, and not Part 62. Its my understanding that this will be changed. I recently had a conversation with Claudia at CAA licensing. According to her the software was written to give only credit for 3-axis microlights, as this is the long-term goal now that provision has been made for Part 62.

Could be wrong?
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Postby airbornex2001 » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:51 am

FF is CAA opposed to Part 96 only when the application is from a trike operator - down here both the motorglider operation and a 4 seater Jabiru operator are operating under Part 96 doing only flipping (scenics).
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Postby Fairy Flycatcher » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:49 am

Although there are individuals who are very outspoken about Trike flips, CAA seems to be more concerned with ex-millitary aircraft. As they are lumped with microlights, and other NTCA, its bad for all of us. :(
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Postby C205 » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:59 am

When is Part 62 expected to come into effect?
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