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Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:17 am
by Grumpy
Goffel wrote:u need a Part 96 AOC.

We are innegotiations in how to make it easier to get a Part 96 cirtificate.......As soon as I have comfirmation on the nitty-grittys on this, I will post it up.....sorry I cannot give u all a clearer picture, but I am also in the dark.

Goffel
Hey Goffel, follow up on this for us please. Nearly a year, 'No hear' Thanks (^^) (^^)

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:15 am
by John Boucher
RAASA has had talks with CAA with regard to a Part 96 exemption for the necessity to have an Air Operators Certificate and thus a legal framework for flipping. Still early days though and it will still entail certain criteria and thus not a "free for all" to do flipping.... Will keep you posted.

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:50 pm
by KFA
Hi John, One thing that came out at the Instructors meetings was that the Part 96 (flipping operations only) can be a stand alone venture, something I do not agree with. What about the school who is using excercise 3 to survive. Now a flipping operation can open up as a stand alone next to that school and evectively close the school. I think that the 96 should be an extention of a school operations to include flipping and in very rare cases (lets say people running a tourist operation on a game farm) should be allowed to operate as a standalone unit.

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:16 pm
by John Boucher
KFA ... thank you for your input. Your concern is shared by others and has been voiced.

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:43 pm
by KFA
Thanks John. I think this can easily be managed by forcing the guy who wants to open a stand alone part 96(flipping operation) to get permission from operators in a certain area (almost like the guys doing a EIA does) or a farmer who wants to legally build a runway has to get permission from his neighbours etc. Note , I am not talking about guys wanting to do commercial work like crop spraying etc, I am only talking about operators who only want to do tourist flipping.

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:42 am
by LDV
Any news on this subject , John ?

Leon

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:13 am
by Boons Baron
Whats been the progress on this "legal flipping" topic? Any?

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:58 am
by Wingover1
Helooo what has happened so far, any new news Johnn or anyone else please let us know :roll:

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:04 am
by John Boucher
The flipping process is being handled in the "Project 24" campaign that is currently being managed by certain workgroups... as yet I don't have any further feedback!

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:53 pm
by Tribal Croc
I am getting alot of enquiries from my geusts for pleasure flights....

Any news on this ?

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:31 pm
by coline
Hey Tribal, just do like with those special wake up calls by your staff, add it to the bill as morning glory rendered!

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:01 am
by Wingover1
Tribal the best solution not necessary the correct one would probably be to increase beverages prices so a soda before a flip will cost say for example R 250.00 if the patron tells you he/she will take 1/2 hour to drink it and buy another one for maybe R 500.00 or whatever if they feel like taking another 1/2 hour to finish the second one **

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:34 pm
by Bromparra
Sell your guests a pen or keyring for R300 and do the flip for free.

Re: Legal "Flipping"

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:28 am
by Tribal Croc
so no chance of doing it the legal way :shock: