What are the latest prices on Gyros in SA ?

[Eagle]

Hi,

Can the importers of all the different Gyros please tell us what are the latest prices on their various products ?

Magni: Butch Brown: gyrosa@mweb.co.za

MT-03: Theuns Eloff: teloff@mweb.co.za

Ela-aviation: Anthony Cohen: elaaviation@mweb.co.za

[Low Level]

The prices as in October 07:

Magni M16 - R 618 000

Magni M22 Voyager - Not sure, but in the region of R 670 000

Ela 08 - R 537 000

MT-03 - R 490 000

[RV4ker (RIP)]

Looks like I won't be driving one of those in a hurry. Why so expensive? (Euro, Rattex 914, blades?)

[Horned Adder]

Looks like I won't be driving one of those in a hurry. Why so expensive? (Euro, Rattex 914, blades?)

Second that - me thinks it is a rip-off, they aren't even closed I would then much rather play with a helicycle, it is turbine, and a couple of hundred grand cheaper Seriously compare a normal 3 axis to the Gyro, i think the Gyro guys are paying for someones private island in the Maldives

[DieselFan]

Those aren't prices they're the bonus payouts in the lotto!

[RV4ker (RIP)]

Based on the prices they are well into the 3 axis arena. I was always under the impression that Gyro's were akin to trikes and not serious xcountry machines, but you can almost get 2 GT450 for these prices and you could def get a very capable 3 axis. (Jab J430 is only R550K fly away VAT incl.) As mentioned above a Rotorway heli (which can hover) is around R700K new and can be had for significantly less from the USA.

I am still interested in why they are so expensive? The Zenon is even more IIRC?

[Henni]

I was always under the impression that Gyro's were akin to trikes and not serious xcountry machines

I am no Gyro fan (only for the reason that I can't afford one), but here I must stand up for them. Judging by programs on the TV and some articles posted here, they seem to be serious xcountry machines.

Watched them do circuits at Rhino on Saturday after I stopped flying in very windy conditions: they make xwind landings & take-offs in very strong winds as if there were no wind at all. No, these can really go places, no doubt about that.

Henni

[DieselFan]

There's also that cheap helicopter from New Zealand I think price was around 180? Mr Rv4ker I remember you still raised the lic issue I think at those prices it would be cheaper and then you could boast about having a heli lic and do legit hovers TO and land and STILL be an MPL guy

You could also save your money and buy one of these


http://www.bikernewsonline.com/labels/C ... cycles.htm

Can you imagine the license dep? CAA or Enats? night rating?

[RV4ker (RIP)]

Point I am trying to make is that you need separate license in any case and thus it no longer an alternative to MPL, but possibly it is going up against PPL 3 axis types and although I have not driven one I don't think a Gyro can compare to an RV as X-country machine or eg. (Prices are similar) Gyro speed say around 100mph. RV (or similar 3 axis like Samba, Jabi, etc) in some cases more than double that?

If you want to get from A to B quickly I have never considered a Gyro as a viable option (same way a helicopter is not). Am I missing the boat?

[t-bird]

Why a Gyro ?

Have a look at my trips on this forum.
Last weekend with the wind – Low level over the Limpopo
Previous weekend – Waterberg mountains
A few weeks before that – 1130 km 3 Gyro’s two days.
And Baberton
Walkersons
Loskopdam and, and and

It seems that we are the only airplanes flying from our strip.

Yes it is expenses but instead of sitting on the ground and debating if we should fly, we fly.

And it is comfortable, even with the 15-20 knot wind the previous weekend. Taking off at 14h00 at Grand Central and landing next to the Limpopo on a game farm at 16h00.

Flying a gyro is not how fast you can get there but it is about the journey.

[RV4ker (RIP)]

IMHO R500K+ for "all about the journey" seems a bit expensive to me. Not by any means being derogatory to Gyro's simply stating my opinion. Based purely on the numbers why is the RAF so much cheaper...

PS
(If this turns into a mud slinging match I will delete the muddy posts)

[t-bird]

RV4ker

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. 80 feet above ground near a mountain at 50 mph @ 11h30 . If it was possible to do this safely with any 3-axis I would have. ATP pilots crash light aircraft while flying @ 400 feet and watching game.

[DieselFan]

I've been doing a lot of reading on the Subarus RAF's and others use. They seem absolutely bullet proof, wonder why others don't go that route.

[t-bird]

Diesel Fan

Sycamore tried the soob engines. They now back to Rotax. Weight is the problem

[Vertical Tango]

Diesel Fan

Sycamore tried the soob engines. They now back to Rotax. Weight is the problem

You should rephrase that : It is not the weight of the Subaru the problem, but the weight of the airframe. Designers (as opposed to clients) love the Rotax because of its weight to power ratio. They simply pass the cost of being innefficient designers to Mr Customer who has no option but to pay and have the HEADACHES of a very sensitive engine. I still have to hear of a Subaru (genuine) engine failure. Now the 914 ! Plenty !!!
Sycamore have failed in making (at that time) their airframe lighter. They cannot blame the Subaru for that.