Beste Vriende
Hieronder verskyn die onlangse advertensie van die Departement van Militêre Veterane wat tot die huidige vlaag van foutiewe en misleidende gerugte oor “pensioene vir dienspligtiges” ens aanleiding gegee het. Dit is ongelukkig wat gebeur as onbekookte planne nog boonop swak gekommunikeer en –uitgevoer word. Dit vul ‘n mens nie met vertroue in die betrokke Departement se vermoë om die saak te hanteer nie.
Die huidige registrasieveldtog is die tweede van sy soort en verskeie ander sal blykbaar later volg. Dit is derhalwe verkeerd om te beweer dat hieride “die laaste kans” is om te registreer, alhoewel ek, in my persoonlike hoedanigheid, graag weer wil aanbeveeel dat ons wel help om die databasisse te suiwer.
Hierdie boodskap word aan u gestuur in ‘n poging om die getal oproepe en navrae aan die Erfenisstigitng, wat inderwaarheid niks met die saak te doene het nie, asook al die veterane organisasies en ook ander onbetrokke openbare instellings, en die groot risiko van verydelde verwagtinge, te probeer verminder!
The (ex SADF) Council for Military Veterans Organisations ( the CMVO) recommends that all military veterans should complete the additional, optional CMVO contact form supplied free by the CMVO so that when new information becomes available, you are at least contactable. Should you wish to get the CMVO contact forms please email
admin@cmvo.org.
Vriendelike groete
Gert Opperman
Besturende Direkteur
Die Erfenisstigting
Tel: 012 - 326 6770
Sel: 083 300 4580
Faks: 086 615 9587
www.erfenisstigting.org.za
“RESUMPTION OF THE NATIONAL MILITARY VETERANS’ DATABASE CLEAN-UP OPERATION MAY 28 – JUNE 30 2012.
MEDIA COMMUNIQUE: May 2011 FROM DEPARTMENT OF MIITARY VETERANS
1. What is the National Military Veterans’ Database?
In 1994, military forces on all sides of the liberation war submitted certified personnel registers (CPRs). These registers enabled the integration of all forces into a single national military force - the South African National Defence Force. Many military personnel chose at that point to retire from military service and their names provided the basis to establish in 2005, the National Military Veteran’s Database.
For various reasons, some combatants of former liberation forces did not formally demobilise in 1994 and their names have yet to be captured in military veterans’ database.
AZANLA chose in 1994 not to participate in the integration process and no combatants of this formation are therefore, on the National Military Veterans’ Database. It has since been agreed, that persons whose names appear on the list presented by AZANLA to the DMV, will undergo verification to determine whether or not they are bonafide military veterans.
The military veterans’ database is therefore, a tool that enables the Department of Military Veterans (DMV) to authenticate the “military-veterans-status” of persons who approach the Department to belong to a family of like-minded people or to access socio-economic support services as prescribed in the Military Veterans’ Act 18 (2011). A credible and secure National Military Veterans’ Database is therefore, central to delivery on services to military veterans.
2. When will the DMV resume with the database clean-up process?
The database clean-up process resumes on 28th May 2012 and it will run until 30th June. The Department calls on all military veterans already listed in the National Military Veterans’ Database. Military veterans not listed on the database must follow the process for registration in with the database.
3. Where exactly do we go in the Provinces to update our personal files in the National Military Veterans’ Database?
Military veterans listed in the database must go to Municipality centres as follows for update of their personal files: (list with schedule attached).
DMV personnel listed under 5 can be contacted for specific registration dates per Municipality. The following military bases will also continue to serve as registration points for update of personal files of military veterans listed in the database:
Gauteng
Kensington Garrison in JHB & Thaba Tshwane
Limpopo
Polokwane Regt Christiaan Beyers & Thohoyandou 15 SAI
North West
Regt de la Rey Potchefstroom & Mafikeng 10 SAI BN
Free State
Regt Bloemspruit Bloemfontein & Bethlehem 2FD Regt
Eastern Cape
14 SAI BN Mthatha & Prince Alfred Guard PE
Mpumalanga
J Ops Facility in Nelspruit & Middelburg
Northern Cape
Kimberly Regt & 8 SAI BN Upington
Western Cape
Inf School in Outshoorn & Forte Capa in Good Wood
KZN
Lords Ground in Durban & 5 SAI BN Ladysmith
Military veterans not listed in the database have no personal files to update in this process. They should rather submit their applications for registration to their organisations to initiate the process for listing on the National Military Veterans’ Database.
Update of personal files of military veterans must take place in the presence of DMV personnel to ensure that all information needed for provisioning of socio-economic support services is captured. It is also critical that both military veterans and DMV officials sign off on information captured in their files.
4. What documents are needed for update of personal files in the database?
It is critical to bring certified copies of the following documents:
• IDs of military veteran, spouse and children
• Marriage certificate
• Highest education certificate
• Most recent school reports of individual children
• Title Deed of family house
• Death certificate where military veteran is deceased
• Employer’s letter confirming employment
• Company registration certificate where military veteran owns or holds shares in a business company
5. How will the Department assist military veterans who are too old or sick to update personal files in the military veterans’ database
Military veterans’ organisations and families must inform the DMV about military veterans who need home-based information update services. The Department is ready to provide such services.
6. How do we determine whether or not my name has been captured in the National Military Veterans database?
People can call the following people in the DMV to check whether or not they are listed in the database:
Eastern Cape Mr Qondi Jali 082 338 1447
KZN Col Tom Seeta 082 957 3414
Limpopo WO Shaun Booth 071 380 4841
Bloemfontein Col Deon Smut 082 853 9843
Western Cape Col Tommy Van Zyl 082 403 3605
Northern Cape Col Smiley Mauyoma 073 397 1333
Gauteng Col Speco 082 323 5829
Mpumalanga Col Kiewiets 072 601 1663
North West Col Oktober 073 397 1333
7. How do we register with the National Military Veterans’ Database?
People wishing to register with the national military veterans database need to submit their names for preliminary verification to relevant military veterans organisation i.e. UMkhonto we Sizwe, APLA or CMVO which caters mostly for those who served in the SADF and TBVC States. Military veterans’ organisations will forward verified names to the DMV for final verification by the National Military Veterans Verification Panel. AZANLA combatants will be included in the national military veterans’ verification process - which will result in the registration of bona fide military veterans with the National Military Veterans Database. (CMVO is trying to establish how this should be done. We have tried to set up a meeting with the DMV in this regard.)
Persons wishing to register with the database without membership with any military veterans’ organisation have by law, the right to forward their names directly to the DMV for verification.
8. How do dependants of deceased military veterans access socio-economic support services?
Dependants of deceased military veterans are urged to also check with military veterans’ organisations whether the names of their spouses or parents appear on the database. Where this is confirmed, dependants are called upon to go to locations of the database clean-up process in their Provinces, to update personal files of their deceased spouses or parents. This is critical to ensure that socio-economic support services are accessed by eligible dependants as defined by law.
9. Is it legal to base service provision to military veterans on the database?
Yes. Section 6 of the Military Veterans Act establishes the linkages between an efficiently managed database and provision of socio-economic support services and military veterans not registered with the database will find it difficult to access socio-economic support services through the DMV.
10. Do people with force numbers automatically qualify for registration with the National Military Veterans Database?
No. not all with force numbers are military veterans. Many civilians who have served in the South African Defence Force and more recently in the SANDF have force numbers. A different verification process will apply for those with force numbers but they too, must have their “military veterans bona fides” confirmed.
11. There is talk about lump sum payment to beneficiaries of deceased military veterans. Is this true?
The Department of Military Veterans and the South African National Military Veterans’ Association (SANMVA) (and CMVO) distance themselves from rumours that military forces of all former military forces or the SANDF, will upon registration with the database qualify for a lump sum to be awarded by the Department of Military Veterans.
The DMV and SANMVA also distance themselves from sale of registration forms. It is fraudulent and criminal to sell database registration forms to military veterans. This is a service the DMV is mandated by law to render to military veterans and Government provides resources for service provision.
Military veterans are urged to report any sale of registration forms to 082 338 1447 with details that will enable the DMV and the police to follow up on this matter.
12. Do people of other countries who provided support on all sides of the liberation war also qualify for socio-economic support services?
No. The law is very clear on this matter. It is only military veterans of this nation, eligible for socio-economic support services who must access such support.
13. CALLING ON ALL MILITARY VETERANS AND MILITARY VETERANS’ ORGANISATIONS!!!
The Department of Military Veterans calls on all military veterans listed in the National Military Veterans’ Database and dependants where military veterans are deceased, to use this opportunity to update information in personal files.
The Department is also calling on SANMVA and Military Veterans’ Organisations to urgently forward names of members yet to be verified and declared bona fide military veterans to the DMV.”
They even want your wife & childrens ID nrs,Bond and property detail and more....I smell a rat...
Your medical information, and details of any injuries you sustained while on duty
