Botswana
Botswana
Hi Guys,
Im planning to do a short trip into botswana (makgadikgadi pans) later this year, just 4 or 5 days. A little roughing it, probably camping in the middle of nowhere with the plane right outside your tent. I would appreciate any advice anyone can give me in terms of:
permits
permissions
best borders to use
best place to stay (were there is NOBODY)
co-ords
places to see
do i need to go through pilansberg and then gabs?
contact numbers of important officials?
etc etc
Obviously if anyone is truly interested in joining you welcome.
Im planning to do a short trip into botswana (makgadikgadi pans) later this year, just 4 or 5 days. A little roughing it, probably camping in the middle of nowhere with the plane right outside your tent. I would appreciate any advice anyone can give me in terms of:
permits
permissions
best borders to use
best place to stay (were there is NOBODY)
co-ords
places to see
do i need to go through pilansberg and then gabs?
contact numbers of important officials?
etc etc
Obviously if anyone is truly interested in joining you welcome.
Re: Botswana
Massimo what plane are you planning to do the trip with and what dates have you got in mind?
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In my 701 probably. Was thinking towards the end of september.
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My best experiences of Bots are in the places where there is nobody, ie. Jacks Camp, Kubu Island, Kwando Concession. Very, very, very special places. In terms of flying in - angwasi, check with the operators. Go there, you'll never regret, I have very special memories.
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Re: Botswana
Hmmm, now this sounds interesting...... Sound like the ideal trip to get to know the Savannah.Massimo wrote:In my 701 probably. Was thinking towards the end of september.
Yes, I suppose Pilansberg and the Gaborone would be the best route, from there the fun starts!
Please keep us informed!
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Learjet!! Where are you?
Dave Lehr knows the area very well. We depended on him for 'heads up' for our trip through there recently. I would caution that you cannot simply land wherever you want, pitch a tent and park off. There are some strict regulations in force as far as I know. Beware, some of the lodges are not aviation friendly unless you are staying there.
Yes, Pilanesberg then Gabs is the way to go. We went from Pilanesberg to Gabs to Orapa the Gweta then Kasane. Depends on your fuel arrangements. Orapa doesnt have fuel but the airport manager kindly loaned us his car to go fetch fuel and arranged accom etc for us. Kind people in Bots mostly we found! Enjoy the adventure!
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Dave Lehr knows the area very well. We depended on him for 'heads up' for our trip through there recently. I would caution that you cannot simply land wherever you want, pitch a tent and park off. There are some strict regulations in force as far as I know. Beware, some of the lodges are not aviation friendly unless you are staying there.
Yes, Pilanesberg then Gabs is the way to go. We went from Pilanesberg to Gabs to Orapa the Gweta then Kasane. Depends on your fuel arrangements. Orapa doesnt have fuel but the airport manager kindly loaned us his car to go fetch fuel and arranged accom etc for us. Kind people in Bots mostly we found! Enjoy the adventure!
Rgds
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Hi Nkwasi
This will probably amuse you. I did a search for this camp angwasi that you indicated might be good to fly into. Came up with nothing, then realised that you probably meant andiazi (Xhosa) spp??
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This will probably amuse you. I did a search for this camp angwasi that you indicated might be good to fly into. Came up with nothing, then realised that you probably meant andiazi (Xhosa) spp??
John Waterson
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Hi JetRanger
Could you assist with contact details of Dave Lehr. We are also planning a trip through Bots & Zim. See Post BOTS ZIM SAVANNAH TOUR.
Masimo
Can you make it ? flying from EAA Convention Bethlehem to BOTS Sunday 30August ....
Regards
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Could you assist with contact details of Dave Lehr. We are also planning a trip through Bots & Zim. See Post BOTS ZIM SAVANNAH TOUR.
Masimo
Can you make it ? flying from EAA Convention Bethlehem to BOTS Sunday 30August ....
Regards
John Waterson
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Colonel Dave Lehr; ZU-RDL;
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Give him a call, he is a veritable mine of information about Bots and will be more than happy to assist.
Rgds
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Give him a call, he is a veritable mine of information about Bots and will be more than happy to assist.
Rgds
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Thanks a lot JetRanger, I will definately give Dave a call.
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John Waterson wrote:Hi Nkwasi
This will probably amuse you. I did a search for this camp angwasi that you indicated might be good to fly into. Came up with nothing, then realised that you probably meant andiazi (Xhosa) spp??
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Re: Botswana
Contact Mr Joseph Ebineng at the CAA of Botswana at jebineng@caab.co.bw to start the process at the Botswana side. (see post on AVCOM on this) he is very helpful and keen to have NTCA in Botswana.
Another route is via Pietersburg Int to Limpop Valey Int. A new in/out port is in process to register (Botswana side) near the Groblersbrug/Maartens Drirft border post, but not in ops yet.
Keep us posted
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Another route is via Pietersburg Int to Limpop Valey Int. A new in/out port is in process to register (Botswana side) near the Groblersbrug/Maartens Drirft border post, but not in ops yet.
Keep us posted
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Cant wait to take aminal to the pans and the Delta......
Looks like a fun trip. No serious issues. Once u contacted Bots CAA you well on your way. Nice folks... (If you need AVGAS take vasaline and $$$$$)
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Looks like a fun trip. No serious issues. Once u contacted Bots CAA you well on your way. Nice folks... (If you need AVGAS take vasaline and $$$$$)
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Re: Botswana
Hey there Massimo.
Great idea. Going through the border oost to Gabs may be a bit of a hssle with all of the trucks there - Martin's Drift may be a better option. It is generally a lot quieter and well organised.
A colleague of mine flies in the swamps/ pans often - he has a microlight and is based in Selebi Phikwe. It may be worth your while to drop him a line - EPretorius@BCL.BW (use the caps). He'd be able to tell you of the best spots etc- I know they organise a trip each year into the pans.
Have fun
Scotman
Great idea. Going through the border oost to Gabs may be a bit of a hssle with all of the trucks there - Martin's Drift may be a better option. It is generally a lot quieter and well organised.
A colleague of mine flies in the swamps/ pans often - he has a microlight and is based in Selebi Phikwe. It may be worth your while to drop him a line - EPretorius@BCL.BW (use the caps). He'd be able to tell you of the best spots etc- I know they organise a trip each year into the pans.
Have fun
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